How long until I can over-plant grass seed after spraying Weed b Gon I have 5 acres of backyard that used to be farmland. I planted grass, but I think I used the wrong kind, as it doesn’t seem to Get your FREE Guide To Fall Seeding from the Lawn Care Nut featuring questions and answers about spraying weeds leading up to the seeding, you do NOT have to kill all the weeds at once and more now! How long do weed killers last in soil? How long to wait after using different weed killers if you plan to reseed? Check it Now!
How long until I can over-plant grass seed after spraying Weed b Gon
I have 5 acres of backyard that used to be farmland. I planted grass, but I think I used the wrong kind, as it doesn’t seem to be spreading. Now ~5 years later, the yard looks decent, but the grass is fairly thin and the weeds (dandelions mostly) are starting to get heavy. So I sprayed Weed B Gon on it, and now want to over-plant grass seed.
I’m not concerned about getting it perfect. If 10% of the seed I put down comes up and starts to spread over the years, I’d consider that a win. Every amount above that certainly welcome, but.
I just sprayed today, and it’s supposed to rain in 2 days (and a few days in a row). I was hoping I could toss down the grass seed tomorrow before rain, but I wasn’t sure if that’s too soon, or if it matters with this particular chemical.
Can I over-plant grass seed a day after spraying Ortho Weed B Gon? If not, how long do I need to wait (and why)?
Seeding After Weed B Gon
Since releasing this year’s FREE Guide To Fall Seeding we have had some questions come about spraying weeds now leading up to the seeding. In and this blog post will answer those.
First off, you do NOT have to kill all the weeds. The winter is going to kill them for you and having a few here and there will not get in your way too badly. However, if you have had a big emergence of crabgrass in your lawn (where it is all you can see), you will want to try and knock that back some – mainly so it doesn’t go to seed on you.
It’s probably hard for you to tell, but this lawn here is in Munster, IN and this is 99% crabgrass.
Here is what it looks like up close:
If this is you, you will want to spray this and start knocking it down. Leaving it in there is good because it will help hold your seed in place but for sure, if your lawn is this thick with crabgrass, hose it good with quinclorac , quincept or mesotrione leading up to seeding following the recommendations below.
Note on Details:
I’m going to get highly detailed here because I respect you and your intelligence. You’re smart and therefore you can and should seek to understand these chems so you can get the proper result from using them and have no fear of them. I respect the fact that once you take the time to understand this example, you will be better at discernment of similar questions in the future and thus you will be more confident in your approach and strategy. In other words, I’m not going to talk to you like you’re dumb and just tell you what to do. Instead I’m going to teach you like a professional. I hope you are good with that.
Second, I respect the green industry and the lawn pros who make their living doing this day in and day out. When you use professional formulations of products like the ones listed here, I now view you on their level and that also means we need to stay within the bounds of the label which is the law. If you see YouTubers or social media influencers out there not following the label, including me, you should call them/me out. Everyone makes mistakes here and there, but it’s their reaction to being called out that truly shows their intent. I like to think everyone means well and is willing to admit when they are wrong.
Can I Spray Weeds and Kill Crabgrass Now if I Plan to Seed In September/Fall Time?
This is the most common question and it’s difficult to answer for all of you so I’m going to show you how to find the answer for yourself using 2 examples.
Reading The Label – Quinclorac 75DF
Key: The answer to your question is on the label. Labels of weed control products almost always tell you the wait time until seeding after application. Let’s look at two that you likely may be using.
First one is quinclorac . This is the first choice active ingredient that kills crabgrass that you may be seeing. If your lawn is covered in crabgrass like a carpet – especially through the middle or meaty part of the lawn, you will want to kill it off or at least stunt it really well before seeding.
The formulation most of you have is the “DF” which stands for “dry flowable” which means it’s small granules that you put in water to make a solution to spray. The concentration is 75% quinclorac.
Here’s the trick to reading labels fast. Find the PDF online. Make sure it is the VERY SAME product you have in hand. DoMyOwn is a great resource for this .
Once you pull up the label, hit “command F” on Mac or “control F” on PC and this opens up a search window. Type the word “Seed” in that window and it will reveal how many times that word appears in the label PDF.
Use the down arrows in that window to “scroll” through all the instances where that word appears. As I did this, I found the following very quickly.
So we can see that for certain types of seedings, this product won’t cause any harm at all but we have to scroll down to the tables 1 and 4 to get the details. Table 1 is going to tell us the grass types that are “highly” and “moderately” tolerant and table 4 will tell us the timing of the applications for ANY seeding.
This is where it sometimes gets confusing so follow along with me.
Here is Table 1
So what this is telling us is that you can use Quinclorac 75DF on established grasses listed as “highly” or “moderately” tolerant. That is really all this chart is for. It has nothing to do with seeding, hence the word “established.” But you still have to look at this chart first to find out if you should even use this product in the first place.
It’s main purpose is to tell you that you should not use this product on Bahia, Colonial Bent, Centipede or St Aug, period. Doesn’t matter if you are seeding or not, you should NOT use this product on these grass types. It also warns you about using it in or around fine fescues – they must be part of a blend if you do.
So in our case, where we are thinking about seeding the lawn, if we are planning to seed Bahia grass for example, then this product is out, 100%. No Bueno.
So if you passed the test on this part and are seeding Kentucky Bluegrass for example, then you need to next consult table 4 which is going to give you the timing of seeding both before and after.
Let’s stick with our example of Kentucky Bluegrass and you can see that it’s ok to apply quinclorac to the lawn to kill crabgrass 7 days before seeding or more. So right now, if you are let’s say 2 weeks away from seeding, you are welcome to spray away and kill that crabgrass dead. (note, this product turns crabgrass orange/red in about 6 days. But it takes much longer for the crabgrass to fully break down so likely some of it will still be there when you seed, just red and dead).
Also of note, if you have crabgrass living after or during your seed grow in, you have to wait 28 days after emergence (when you see it) before spraying. It’s important to understand what mix you are seeding in this case because if you have a tall fescue, bluegrass mixed seed , the tall fescue will emerge in about 10 days but the bluegrass won’t emerge for 18-21 days so you need to wait 28 days AFTER THE BLUEGRASS emerges before spraying quinclorac. If you really want to be safe, wait the 28 days and 1-2 mowings before applying – this adds some extra protection for the late bloomers as mowing encourages new grass to “harden off” quicker.
Reading The Label – Seeding and Tenacity – Mesotrione
( we have the generic which is cheaper FYI)I will throw this one in real quick because it’s a little different. We recommend this product for a pre-emergent application at the time of seeding. It will suppress certain weeds in your grow in. If you are new and inexperienced, DO NOT think you have to use this – your results will be ok without it. But if you do use it, people think they can just spray it anytime they want and this is not true.
You can spray it anytime you want leading up to seed day, and on seed day, but once your seeds germinate, you should NOT spray it again until the new gras has been mowed 2-4 times or 4 weeks whichever is longer.
So to be clear – you can apply this up to seeding, but once the seed germinates (4-5 days for rye, up to 21 days for bluegrass) you should NOT apply it to weeds until the new turf has been mowed 2-4 times or 4 weeks, whichever is longer. This is because baby grass is weak and can’t withstand/tolerate mesotrione .
Reading The Label – Speed Zone – Red Label
This is another weed control I have recommended heavily and they list right on the label in clear printing how long to wait until you seed. Keep in mind, this product has an 85F degree temp restriction anyway so many of you would not be using it in summer, but in case you did, here is the wait time after app before seeding:
Reading the Label – Quincept – New Farm
Ok now just as I make everything seem like it’s as simple as reading the label, NuFarm (who I love) comes in and just leaves it off their Quincept label completely . Maybe someone from NuFarm can Tweet me and let me know why y’all have left this off your label for so many years… is there a typo you have not corrected? I have read and read the label and this is all I can find – it’s all about “spraying after you seed” but nothing about “spraying before you seed.”
You can read that all you want, backward and forward and it only tells you about “after” seeding. And since I have recommended this weed control so heavily this year I feel like I need to provide an answer.
First off, when I worked for TruGreen ChemLawn, Quincept was our go-to weed control for summer and I remember that every year that right around 3 weeks before overseeding time we would get a memo telling us to cut off the Quincept use. The memo would come early but would read “stop spraying Quincept 2 weeks prior to starting your overseedings for customers.”
So that is my first clue as to the reseed window – it comes from my experience.
Next, I found a product that is similar to Quincept in that it has the same active ingredients plus one. That is Q4 Plus . It has very similar concentrations of the active ingredients within the Quincept plus one more. That product says this:
In short, if you are using Quincept, wait a minimum of 14 days after application to throw down your grass seed. I had to use some logic with this one and figured I’d share it just in case you are doing all the research and coming up empty. Now you know.
So there you go, all about reading labels for seeding – hope this has helped you and that your seeding will be successful this season!
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How Long After Weed Killer Can I Plant Grass Seed?
It’s understandable to be suspicious of sowing seed after utilizing weed killer. Spreading seeds and young plants may be harmed by such herbicides. However, although some weed killers need several months of waiting before sowing grass seed, some only need a few days of waiting. The influence of the different compounds in the individual products is the source of this variance. When using a weed killer, scan the packaging closely and obey all of the guidelines.
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How long do weed killers last in soil?
If you’re planting grass seed on your lawn or spot weeding, you should consider how long weed killers remain in the topsoil. It’s important to understand how long weed killers last in the soil. This can have an effect on trees, grass seed, and everything else developing in that field.
There will be a time during which you will be unable to do so. The weeds should be perishing by now. There aren’t many plants that can withstand a heavy dose of weed killer, though the grass has a harder time than others.
In reality, most commercially available weed killers sold at a local garden center are allowed by regulation to decompose in the soil within two weeks.
Most weed killers, as well as most herbicides in general, aren’t immune to the fruit or vegetable plant you’re developing. Also, most herbicides are produced to attack the root system of the plant. You wouldn’t be able to produce much if weed killer was already active in the soil.
Most weed killers are formulated to disappear within 24 to 78 hours for this purpose. This ensures that, for the most part, planting something, edible or non-edible, in an area where weed killer has been sprayed after three days is healthy. You should wait a week or two until planting if you want to be extra sure.
In reality, most weed killers marketed for home use are allowed by law to decompose in the soil during 14 days, if not faster. Consider the herbicide glyphosate. Based on the herbicide, it will take anything from a few days to a few weeks to break down.
How long to wait after using different weed killers if you plan to reseed?
The period of work is different for each type of weed killer. Always inspect the product’s label to figure out when its action will be fully over so you could reseed the grass on your lawn.
|Weed killer type||Application||The period of work|
|Systemic herbicide||Absorbed by all plant’s parts||Needs 7 days to work|
|Contact herbicide||Absorbed only by the leaves of living and green weeds||Needs up to 2 weeks to work|
|Selective herbicide||Only for specific plants and their parts||Acts quickly but remains in the soil up to 7 days|
|Residual weed killer||Only for patios and path areas||Can stay in the soil for many months|
|Non-selective herbicide||Destroys all plants it contacts with||Remain in the soil for 2-4 weeks|
How long to wait to reseed after using a selective weed killer?
This kind of weed killer is both powerful and safe for use in the yard. Sowing grass seeds takes around a month after they’ve been applied. Selective herbicides are effective against both broadleaf and grassy weeds. If the ideal plants are in the grass family, it will kill them, but it leaves little residue on the surface. Keep in mind that broadleaf weeds are relatively resistant to these herbicides. You will probably wait around a month, but you must adhere to the herbicide’s guidelines.
Most selective herbicides contain such active components as Clethodim, Bentazon, Sethoxydim.
How and when to reseed after using a pre-emergent weed product?
A pre-emergent weed killer is added in the spring to discourage weeds from germinating. If you’ve had weed problems in the past and want to get a head start on the issue before summer arrives, you’ll have to overseed/reseed the yard to fill in all the bare spaces where weeds have already flourished. A dense lawn holds weeds at bay by keeping seeds from hitting the soil via the thick blades.
Nevertheless, before using it, double-check the pre-emergent and make sure your lawn’s grass style isn’t harmed.
You will need such things and tools as grass seeds (suitable for your lawn type), rake, a spreader, watering hose and topsoil.
Here is how you should reseed after applying a pre-emergent weed killer/preventer:
- Remove dead roots and grass from the lawn with a rake. The pre-emergent is introduced in the spring until temperatures exceed 50 degrees Fahrenheit to kill weeds before they grow. To ensure that the pesticide has had little impact, wait at least 6-8 weeks before planting seeds;
- Look at the grass seed package; it should define the “overseeding amount”. Half of the required amount of seed should be put in a garden spreader;
- Through a spreader running back and forth in groups, walk across the grass. Rep for the other half of the seed, arranging it in rows perpendicular to the first. Spread 1/4 inch of topsoil evenly over the lawn, allowing it to slip between the grass blades and overseeds;
- Soak the lawn to a depth of 2 inches with water. Begin to water every day before the grass blades grow, then water twice per week (one inch of water);
How long to wait after using Glyphosate to reseed?
Glyphosate is a non-selective, systemic weed killer. Starting at the roots and working up to the stems, this destroys the whole plant. The herbicide leaves little trace of the weeds that have died in the soil. Grass, weeds, and other unwanted plants can be affected by this chemical. However, after the herbicide has been properly consumed by the soil, it has little effect on other plants.
Three days is how much you should wait before planting the seeds after glyphosate. It will take up to seven days for the herbicide to kill the weeds completely. You would be greeted and a lush lawn with high-quality grass if you are diligent enough to kill the unwanted vegetation before spreading the new seeds.
When to plant after using a Roundup weed killer?
According to Scotts, the maker of Roundup weed killer, ornamental bushes, shrubs, and trees can be planted the next day, and grasses, edible plants, and trees can be planted three days later.
Because of how easily it degrades, the Roundup herbicide is rated relatively safe among weed killers. When applying a glyphosate weed killer like Roundup, though, experts advise waiting a few days for it to do its job and disappear until searching.
There are a few reasons why you should do this:
- It requires some time to act. Contact weed killers like glyphosate are ingested through the foliage and gradually work their way down to the roots. You risk cutting off any live roots that can sprout again if you plow, dig, or damage the weeds until they’re really gone;
- May affect edible plants. The tiny amount of debris on the soil surface does not damage new plants if it is applied correctly and carefully. However, you don’t want such residues to be eaten by plants you intend to eat, so I’d wait a few days before planting herbs and vegetables;
- It may harm your seed. Let new, young sprouts from seed break down before planting grass or other crops, as they may be susceptible to soil residues;
How long to wait after using Ortho Weed B Gon to plant grass seed?
After spraying the Weed B Gon product, wait four weeks before planting the grass seed in the treated regions. Loosen the soil with a shovel in any bare spots, then apply compost and other nutrients as required. After that, wet the field and disperse the seeds. Through your foot or a lawn roller, press the seeds onto the dirt or manure, then cover with a thin coat of sand, compost, or straw mulch and water one more time.
Keep the field moist until the grass seeds germinate, watering once or twice daily if appropriate. It’s time to mow when the grass is one-third higher than the recommended height, about 4 to 6 weeks after planting. Let the clippings decompose on the lawn and return nutrients to the grass.
How long to wait to plant grass seed after spraying Hi Yield 2, 4-D weed killer?
It is required to wait at least 4 weeks before reseeding an area that has been treated with Hi Yield 2,4-D Selective Weed Killer.
Tips to consider before planting seeds after using a weed killer:
- Avoid the products containing Atrazine because it is very deadly to grass;
- Find out about the grass type before investing in any herbicide. Some chemicals remain in the soil for months and destroy every plant that they contact with;
- Do not overwater because this may lead to the slow growth of lawn grass;
- When sprinkling any chemical herbicide it is better to keep children and pets away from the treated area;
- Do not water the lawn for a few hours after sprinkling the product;
- Pick the herbicide that won’t contaminate or destroy the topsoil and will promote the growth of grass;
When is the best time to plant a new lawn?
Most experts and gardeners along with the manufacturers agree that the best time to plant a new grass lawn can be fall or spring.
How long to wait after applying a fertilizer to plant grass seed?
After spraying fertilizer, you will automatically plant grass seed. Please ensure that the fertilizer includes no weed preventer since this will stop the seed from germinating.
How long to wait after seeding to use a weed killer?
Broadleaf weed killers’ labels usually state that they can not be used on a freshly seeded lawn before it has been mowed 3 times. Give it a rest; you don’t want your weed-control activities to hurt the grass you worked so hard to cultivate.
When cultivating turf, don’t use a weed preventer (granular or liquid) or a fertilizer. Weeds can only be managed after you’ve mowed fresh grass seedlings 4 times. When you sow seed, any weed control you use can inhibit germination or destroy immature seedlings.
You must always rely on the sticker/instructions/label of the herbicide. It will most definitely tell you how long to wait, but it will also rely on other variables including moisture level and the soil type. You could have many weed seeds in the dirt, depending on the weeds. Under that scenario, planting too soon may be an expensive error.
While all weed control products are different, planting new grass within 4 months of applying a crabgrass preventer, or within 1 month of applying other products, is not encouraged.